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NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CIA
CIA TO APPEAL COURT DECISION
FOREIGN HACKERS GET INTO CLASSIFIED COMPUTERS AT SANDIA
VERNON WALTERS PREDICTED FALL OF BERLIN WALL IN 1988
SENATOR MOYNIHAN CRITICIZES THE CIA, AGAIN
HANSSEN, HANSSEN, HANSSEN:
WAS HANSSEN DORMANT FROM 1991 TO 1999? The affidavits filed with Hanssen's arrest detail his espionage activities from 1985 to 1991 and from 1999 to 2001, raising the possibility he was inactive through most of the 1990's. However, as Vernon Loeb points out, there are clues he may have been spying all along.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16011-2001Mar16.html
SHOULD US RETALIATE AGAINST RUSSIA FOR HANSSEN ESPIONAGE WITH DIPLOMATIC AND ECONOMIC SANCTIONS?
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200104027.shtml
RUSSIAN SVR OFFICER HURRIES HOME. Vladimir Frolov, nominally the press officer at the Russian embassy here but actually a Russian intelligence officer, abruptly packed up and left for Moscow last week. He was not PNG'd. However, the Bush Administration is debating whether or not to PNG (expel) one or more SVR officers in retaliation for the Hanssen espionage case, and perhaps Moscow is trying to preempt that by withdrawing Frolov.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/19/world/19SPY.html
NEXT GENERATION "SMALLSATS" WILL COST $25BILLION
CIA DECLASSIFIES REINHARD GEHLEN RECORDS
ISRAEL TO LEGALIZE TORTURE?
INTERVIEW WITH VLADIMIR SEMICHASTNY, KGB CHIEF DURING THE 1960's
BAY OF PIGS CONFERENCE IN HAVANA
BOOKS & OTHER SOURCES
CNN SERIES ON NSA THIS WEEK
Monday Codebreakers
Tuesday Spying on you? (tonight)
Wednesday Codemakers
Thursday Listener
Friday Traitor problems
GEOFFREY ELLIOT with IGOR DAMASKIN, KITTY HARRIS: THE SPY WITH SEVENTEEN NAMES, forthcoming from St Ermin's Press, London.
CRS REPORTS ONLINE
"Intelligence Issues for Congress," updated March 2, 2001:
http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/IB10012.pdf
"North Korea's Nuclear Weapons Program," Issue Brief, updated February 27, 2001:
"Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Terrorist Threat" Dec 1999
http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RS20412.pdf
REVIEW OF TOMLINSON (MI6) BOOK
HOW MUCH DID HANSSEN DAMAGE THE US?
FROM LAST WEEK: I was asked that question at a recent academic forum. Of course, I only know what I have read in the papers and don't know what the final answer will be, but here's how I responded to the question: From the standpoint of FBI counterintelligence officers, I said, I am sure the damage was a real disaster. However, if one considers that the only purpose of US intelligence is to support US foreign policy by providing information to policymakers, then one has to ask if Hanssen ruined (or even damaged) US foreign policy during the time he was active. Perhaps he did some damage to foreign policy but, in my view, only at the margins and very little at that. Sure, it was a counterintelligence disaster and a terrible tragedy for compromised agents and operations. But, after all, we won the Cold War. What would of or should of the US done differently policywise in the 1980's and 90's that Hanssen's treachery ruined or prevented? John Macartney
RESPONSES FROM READERS
John: I have had something of the same thought re Hanssen and who won the Cold War, but the issue goes deeper.
He compromised many of our collection systems, making future intell collection for us more difficult not only against Russia, but elsewhere, as Russia will undoubtedly share some of this intelligence. Dr Mark Lowenthal
Hi Mac! Nice way you handled the question on damage assessment.
However, I wonder if a better answer might be "As an outsider without any but the info reported by the media, I could not kowledgeably or reliably comment". We
sometimes add fuel to the media frenzy when we try to do otherwise. See you on the news at 11. Regards, John Gregoire
1) broadly speaking, I'd say the purpose of intelligence is to defend over time the Constitution and sovereign independence of this republic from enemies foreign and domestic. hence, it must support policymakers with respect to foreign policy and internal security policy, or "national security policy" broadly speaking.
I don't actually have an answer, but do think the question relates to what I've been calling the "correlation problem." I.E., there have been at least dozens of significant to serious espionage cases over the past few decades, cubic meters of classified information at all levels shipped out to unauthorized recipients. But there's been very little to no identifiable consequence to the US national security.
John - My off the cuff reaction: Reports of the costs of compromise or the benefits of secret sources are probably both exaggerated in this and many cases. Such reports reflect a lack of understanding about the benefits of secret intelligence.
The point of secrecy is to gain an edge. Sometimes this edge is a large advantage and sometimes it is marginal. It is almost always temporary. Penetrations and security failures are just part of the business.
It seems to me as if many Intelforum posts reflect the existence of two
different points of view (POV), or schools, concerning the relationship
between national security and matters of secrecy, espionage and
counterespionage (SE&C).
PS Thanks for doing stuff. I enjoy and learn something
every week. Currently on top of the world as Pollard is
still in the pen. He worked for me at one point and I
was the "SOB" who first pulled his tickets...a few years
before he was caught and charged!
2) I imagine that we would have to have the results of a full damage assessment in order to determine whether or not, and in what manner, Hanssen may have compromised or influenced directly or indirectly the formulation and implementation of our national security policy. Did his activity assist the Soviets/Russians in the formulation and implementation of disinformation programs, running agents of
influence (in our government, academics, think tanks, press, business/like Armand Hammer, etc), protecting agents of influence, running deception operations, acquiring military capabilities, acquiring knowledge of our plans and intentions with respect to national security policy, and so on?
3) You raise an excellent question and the same should be raised about Ames, Pollard, and other cases for example. However, I am not sure that unclassified versions of damage assessments are made available to the public on these cases? Are they? So it is hard to make a case at an unclassified level on this. For example, we are just now getting around to an understanding of VENONA as scholars have put out books over the last several years about it. But I have not seen one that gets into the matter of damage assessment from a foreign policy perspective. That is, how President Roosevelt's own perspectives (let alone his wife's) and policies may have been affected, how the penetration of the State Department and Treasury Department (say the Harry Dexter White case) and other US government agencies, and academic, press, and other influential circles by the NKVD and GRU influenced the formulation of US policy and how this impacted on our national security in the near, medium, and long terms.
4) There is still another problem. That relates to the tendency for discussion and analysis of foreign policy to be dominated by foreign policy elites interested in perpetuating all manner of mythology, and hence in perpetuating a sort of official history. Emerging after World War I, this problem has caused more recent generations to lose an accurate understanding of actual events and the dynamics of this century. At least this is my view. How can an analyst analyze accurately and predict or forecast if his/her mind is clouded by official (or semi-official)
mythology perpetuated in academic, business, and government circles? Jonkers alluded to this problem in a way when he mentioned factors such as culture, the influence of elite opinion and so on in a recent WIN...
One way to mitigate this problem is through timely declassification of foreign policy related government documents. We should reject the protection of "sources and methods" arguments if these are falsely used in such a way as to simply cover-up policy failures or intelligence failures (thereby perpetuating official "politically correct" history) . Of course, we want to protect what is proper to protect and just who is it who decides what is proper to protect????. But I think 30 years is way too long a wait for most materials because this creates too much of a
memory hole with respect to national policy. And excuses about lack of resources for processing documents are just excuses, resources can always be made available through executive or legislative (earmarked funds) means.... CA Kirofe
Certainly agents have been caught and shot, COMINT operations shut down, etc. But the nearest thing I can find to even potential harm to national security are the guys who gave away war plans or military crypto keys Sgt. Johnson, the Walker bunch. And even there, the potentiating event would have been a general war between the US and USSR. Whether the final outcome of such a conflict would have been affected by the betrayed information is something I'm very happy not to know.
So, based on what we know now, did Hanssen matter much, would history have
gone differently without him or Ames? I don't think so. (See the Cockburn
op-ed in today's LA Times for a contrary opinion from Dr. Deutch).
Peace-time, non-tactical intelligence mostly matters in the aggregate and in
the large scale, and since 1960 or so agent HUMINT has contributed a fairly
small amount to the aggregate. Allen Thomson
Rather than become excessively outraged when they occur, we need to just go about our business and minimize such compromises (being careful to remember that the surest way to protect secrets is to share them with no one an approach that also ensures they will have absolutely no value).
Bottom line- trying to prove that a single secret was decisive in determining the outcome of the Cold War is a fool's game, but so is trying to prove that secrets had absolutely no value. Dr Bruce Berkowitz, RAND Corp.
The first appears to believe that SE&C is an integral and irreducible
component of the definition of national security. Presumably that school
would list as other components such things as preservation of the national
territory and the physical and economic well-being of the citizenry. In
this case, it is sensless to ask if compromise of secrets and
intelligence/counterintelligence successes and failures affect the national
security, because SE&C *is* part of the national security. A name for this
POV/school might be "definitionalist".
The second (to which I belong) could be called "instrumentalist". That is,
it agrees that preservation of the national territory and the physical and
economic well-being of the citizenry possibly other things are
fundamental components of national security. The difference is that it does
not see SE&C as a component of the national security, but rather as
instruments or tools meant to protect and enhance the actual components.
In this case, one can ask questions concerning the effectiveness of the
instruments, their monetary cost, and the possibility of undesirable
side-effects. And in pursuit of answers, one can look for evidence that
successful application of the tools has had a positive effect on the
national security, that failures have harmed the national security, etc.
Allen Thomson
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UPCOMING EVENTS
MAR 21, Washington, DC
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http://www.dialumni.org/flyer.html
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